Thursday, July 9, 2020

Srebrenica - A Town Betrayed. Why the 1992 to 1995 War Crimes were NOT genocide

Srebrenica is a town in eastern Bosnia that symbolized the tragedy of the 1992 to 1995 civil war between Serbs, Croats, and Muslims. Over 3,000 Serb civilians were killed starting in 1992 by the Muslim forces in Srebrenica. In retaliation, the Bosnian Serb Army killed over one thousand Muslim soldiers in July 1995. (The number varies from the low thousands "up to 8,000".) 

"Srebrenica: A Town Betrayed" is the name of 2010 Norwegian documentary. At the encouragement of the Clinton Administration, it documents how the Bosnian Muslim government was prepared to exchange territory in Srebrenica for Serbian territory near Sarajevo. NATO would intervene militarily on behalf of the Bosnian Muslims if 5,000 Muslims were killed in Srebrenica by the Serbs. 

"Srebrenica: A Town Betrayed" is confirmed by a Dutch report. Bosnian Muslim President Alija Izetbegovic told the Srebrenica delegation of a proposal by US President Bill Clinton in 1993 OR 2 years before the end of the war in 1995. If 5,000 Muslims were killed in Srebrenica by the Serbs, a NATO military intervention would follow. The key excerpt starts at 2:56 and goes until 4:05. (Emphasis added.) 


[Chief of Police Mehovic:] “Alija told us about Clinton’s proposal. Chetniks [Serbs] would occupy Srebrenica and kill off 5,000 Muslims. A military intervention would follow. What did we think of that? We rejected this proposal. We thought it was outrageous to murder 5,000 people.”
Srebrenica Chief of Police Hakija Mehovic

The idea of an American president proposing that Serbian troops attack Srebrenica and carry out a massacre to justify a military intervention seemed utterly ludicrous. But the UN investigation shows Hakija’s words are not unfounded. UN report: “Some surviving members of the Srebrenica delegation have stated that President Izetbegovic also told them that he had learned that a NATO intervention in Bosnia and Herzegovina was possible, but could only occur if the Serbs were to break into Srebrenica, killing at least 5,000 of its people.”
The above text and video was posted by Ms. Julia Gorin


At the beginning of the war in 1992 and 1993, "[m]ore than 1,300 Serb civilians (were) butchered by Muslim forces under Naser Oric," according to former US National Security Agency (NSA) Analyst John R. Schindler. 



National Security Agency (NSA) Analyst John R. Schindler































Mr. Schindler was quoted at in the time stamp of 10:41:24:23 or 41:50 in this YouTube video. When Mr. Schindler said Naser Oric "butchered" Serbs, Oric beheaded some Serbs and burned others.


Mr. Schindler was also the author of "Unholy Terror: Bosnia, Al-Qa'ida, and the Rise of Global Jihad". A summary is here.


"Al-Qa’ida: in the 80s they were in Afghanistan, supported by America and fighting the Russians.  In the new century they have metastasized throughout the world’s geopolitical body. Where were they in the 90s? Unholy Terror provides the answer, with all its terrifying implications for our world today.

"This book provides the missing piece in the puzzle of al-Qa’ida’s transformation from an isolated fighting force into a lethal global threat:  the Bosnian war of 1992 to 1995.  John R. Schindler reveals the unexamined role that radical Islam played in that terrible conflict--and the ill-considered contributions of American policy to al-Qa’ida’s growth.  His book explores a truth long hidden from view:  that, like Afghanistan in the 1980s, Bosnia in the 1990s became a training ground for the mujahidin.  Unholy Terror at last exposes the shocking story of how bin Laden successfully exploited the Bosnian conflict for his own ends--and of how the U. S. Government gave substantial support to his unholy warriors, leading to blowback of epic proportions."

The blowback would travel from Bosnia in 1990s directly to September 11th as some of the September 11th hijackers fought with the Bosnian Muslims in the 1990s.  


"Bosnian President Alija Izetbegovic grants Osama bin Laden a Bosnian passport 'in recognition of his followers’ contributions to Mr. Izetbegovic’s quest to create a ‘fundamentalist Islamic republic’ in the Balkans,' according to an account in a Bosnian newspaper in 1999. [Ottawa Citizen, 12/15/2001] Renate Flottau, a reporter for Der Spiegel, will later claim that bin Laden told her he had been given a Bosnian passport when she happened to meet him in Bosnia in 1994" (see 1994). [Schindler, 2007, pp. 123-125]


"Renate Flottau, a reporter for Der Spiegel, later claims she meets Osama bin Laden in Bosnia some time in 1994. She is in a waiting room of Bosnian Muslim President Alija Izetbegovic’s office in order to interview him when she runs into bin Laden. He gives her a business card but at the time she does not recognize the name. They speak for about ten minutes and he talks to her in excellent English. He asks no questions but reveals that he is in Bosnia to help bring Muslim fighters into the country and that he has a Bosnian passport. Izetbegovic’s staffers seem displeased that bin Laden is speaking to a Western journalist. One tells her that bin Laden is 'here every day and we don’t know how to make him go away.' She sees bin Laden at Izetbegovic’s office again one week later. This time he is accompanied by several senior members of Izetbegovic’s political party that she recognizes, including members from the secret police. She later calls the encounter 'incredibly bizarre.' [Schindler, 2007, pp. 123-125] A journalist for the London Times will witness Flottau’s first encounter with bin Laden and testify about it in a later court trial (see November 1994). Members of the SDA, Izetbegovic’s political party, will later deny the existence of such visits. But one Muslim politician, Sejfudin Tokic, speaker of the upper house of the Bosnian parliament, will say that such visits were 'not a fabrication,' and that photos exist of bin Laden and Izetbegovic together. One such photo will later appear in a local magazine. Author John Schindler will say the photo is 'fuzzy but appears to be genuine.' [Schindler, 2007, pp. 124-125, 342] According to one account, bin Laden continues to visit the Balkan region as late as 1996." [Wall Street Journal (Europe), 1/11/2001]



In 1994, the Bosnian Muslim passport provided Bin Laden the opportunity to travel with fewer restrictions as he prepared for the September 11th attacks. Bin Laden also recruited thousands of mujahideen to fight on behalf of the Bosnian Muslims. 

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM) was the "principal architect" of the 9/11 attacks. KSM was granted Bosnian Muslim citizenship in 1995



The "blowback" that Mr. Schindler referred to continues to the present day (2020) as there are fighters from Bosnia fighting in Syria. 

President Izetbegovic was the author of the "Islamic Declaration" in 1970. He called for the creation of an Islamic republic from Morocco to Indonesia. A key excerpt is here.

“The exhaustive definition of the Islamic Order is: the unity of religion and law, education and force, ideals and interests, spiritual society and State…the Muslim does not exist at all as an independent individual… […] It is not in fact possible for there to be any peace or coexistence between ‘the Islamic Religion’ and non-Islamic social and political institutions.” 


Izetbegovic was jailed twice, first for his membership in the Young Muslims which was allied with Handzars. The Handzars were allied with the Nazi SS during WWII. He served 3 years in prison.

He was later sentenced to 14 years in jail for "The Islamic Declaration" in 1983 but released in 1988.


Why Srebrenica was a war crime and NOT genocide

Dr. Efraim Zuroff is the Chief Nazi hunter of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem. Prior to the final attack on Srebrenica in July 1995, Bosnian Serb General Ratko Mladic evacuated women and girls. Therefore, it was a war crime  "'[b]ut it wasn't genocide.'"



Portuguese General Carlos Martins Branco published his memoirs in 2016. General Martins Branco was the former United Nations Military Observer to Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina. Stephen Karganovic reviewed his memoirs.
 "THERE WAS NO GENOCIDE IN SREBRENICA". 




General Martins Branco also asked if Srebrenica was a hoax in an article for Global Research



In the the same article, General Martins Branco cited the absence of Naser Oric. He was the local Muslim warlord whose soldiers killed over 1,300 Serb civilians according to John R. Schindler of the National Security Agency (NSA). 

General Martins Branco



Professor Edward Herman of the University of Pennsylvania was a chief critic of the Srebrenica "genocide" mantra. He was a prolific writer on the issue. This is a key excerpt from 





Canadian Major General Lewis MacKenzie established and commanded Sector Sarajevo as part of the United Nations Protection Force. His observations of the "genocide" at Srebrenica are hereEmphasis added in bold below.


"What happened next is only debatable in scale. The Bosnian Muslim men and older boys were singled out and the elderly, women and children were moved out or pushed in the direction of Tuzla and safety. It's a distasteful point, but it has to be said that, if you're committing genocide, you don't let the women go since they are key to perpetuating the very group you are trying to eliminate. Many of the men and boys were executed and buried in mass graves. 


"Evidence given at The Hague war crimes tribunal casts serious doubt on the figure of "up to" 8,000 Bosnian Muslims massacred. That figure includes "up to" 5,000 who have been classified as missing. More than 2,000 bodies have been recovered in and around Srebrenica, and they include victims of the three years of intense fighting in the area. The math just doesn't support the scale of 8,000 killed."



Regarding General MacKenzie's point​, scale is an important factor in determining genocide. For example, the Holocaust claimed the lives of over 6 million Jews in WWII. Another example is the genocide of 3.5 million people by the Ottoman Empire from 1915 to 1923, also known as the The Great Crime. The 3.5 million includes 1.5 million Armenians as well as 950,000 Greeks, 750,000 Assyrians and others. Turkey has yet to acknowledge much less apologize for The Great Crime. 


Approximately 100,000 killed on all sides (Serbs, Croats, Muslims, others) in all of Bosnia in 3+ YEARS from April 1992 to July 1995. Upwards of 11,000 of the 100,000 were killed in Srebrenica with over 3,000 Serb​ civilian​s​ (men, WOMEN and CHILDREN) ​killed starting in 1992 and "upwards of 8,000" Bosnian Muslims​ soldiers​ in July 1995. 


800,000 ethnic Tutsis and moderate Hutus were slaughtered in a 100 DAY period in Rwanda in 1994

Therefore, the scale of magnitude ranges​ from​ massacres ​in ​Srebrenica​ to ​genocide ​in ​Rwanda​, the Ottoman Empire, and Jews in WWII. ​




Conclusion 

Reconciliation and healing is difficult anywhere especially the former Yugoslavia. South Africa benefitted from a "Truth and Reconciliation" Commission which addressed the crimes of the apartheid era. The former Yugoslavia would benefit from something  similar. Israeli Holocaust historian Dr. Gideon Greif is leading a commission that is studying the events of Bosnia in greater detail





I hope the Commission led by Dr. Greif can help bring healing and reconciliation to the different groups. The memories of all the dead Serbs, Croats, Muslims and others deserve justice. Until then, the region will never know a lasting peace. The ripple effect spanned the globe as Osama Bin Laden, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM), and some of the September 11th hijackers fought on behalf of the Bosnian Muslims. That tragic day continues to haunt the world to the present day. Vechnaya Pamyat! Memory eternal!


I hope the commission investigates Naser Oric's crimes in greater detail. For example, Oric enjoyed showing Toronto Star reporter Bill Schiller reporter a videotape of his "'war trophies'". "'We killed 114 Serbs there'..."



Schiller's reporting is backed by Ibran Mustafic. Mustafic was a war veteran and a member of the main SDA political party. 



The commission should also investigate Mustafic's disclosure of Bosnian Muslims killing their own civilians

 "At least 1,000 Bosnian Muslims from Srebrenica were killed by their compatriots during the breakthrough to Tuzla in July 1995, because there were lists of those who have prevented from reaching the freedom, at any cost."

The pain still lingers 25 years later as justice has NOT been served. Naser Oric is the chief target of resentment by BOTH Serbs AND Muslims. Serbs were angry that Oric was acquitted by the war crimes tribunal despite evidence of killing over 1,300 Serbs. The Muslims of Srebrenica such as Messrs. Mehovic and Mustafic are bitter for being sacrificed by Presidents Clinton and Izetbegovic. Oric was supposed to protect the Muslims of Srebrenica but he left Srebrenica long before July 1995. Mr. Mustafic wrote that Oric should receive 20 years in prison for what he did to the Bosnian Serbs and 200,000 YEARS IN PRISON for what he did to Bosnian Muslims






SOURCES 

"A Town Betrayed" (2010 Norwegian film)

"Unholy Terror: Bosnia, Al-Qa'ida, and the Rise of Global Jihad"

1993: Bosnian President Izetbegovic Grants Bin Laden Passport as Gesture of Appreciation

Complete 911 Timeline


1994: Bin Laden Seen Repeatedly Meeting with Bosnian Muslim President Izetbegovic

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/from-brussels-to-sarajevo_b_8640296

https://www.scribd.com/document/54589375/Alija-Izetbegovic-Islamic-Declaration

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/20/world/alija-izetbegovic-muslim-who-led-bosnia-dies-at-78.html





Dutch report https://youtu.be/i1a-_LzxDyE
posted by Ms. Julia Gorin. http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=2665

https://www.timesofisrael.com/mladic-conviction-rekindles-debate-on-definition-of-genocide/


General Martins Branco article for Global Research. 
https://www.globalresearch.ca/was-srebrenica-a-hoax-eye-witness-account-of-a-former-united-nations-military-observer-in-bosnia/731

Canadian Major General Lewis MacKenzie
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/the-real-story-behind-srebrenica/article737584/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_MacKenzie had the information from the Globe and Mail link is not presently active.

800,000 ethnic Tutsis and moderate Hutus were slaughtered in a 100 DAY period in Rwanda in 1994.


Professor Edward Herman of the University of Pennsylvania was a prolific critic of "genocide" in Srebrenica. He edited and wrote "The Srebrenica Massacre: Evidence, Context, Politics".  


Professor Herman, Diane Johnstone and others wrote the Propaganda in the War on Yugoslavia. Key information and links are here including original AP footage of Bosnian Muslim civilians being evacuated from Srebrenica by the Bosnian Serb Army.

3. The “Genocide of Srebrenica” (1995)

The “Genocide of Srebrenica” in July 1995 is regarded as the sad climax of the Bosnian war. According to Western accounts originally based on a report by the US government, more than 8000 Bosnian civilians may have been killed.
But according to Phillip Corwin, the highest-ranking UN civilian official in Bosnia during the war, the actual evidence points to a more complex situation and a somewhat different context. Corwin called the official Western account of events in Srebrenica a “distortion”.
The late political scientist Edward S. Herman and the former CIA officer Robert Baer, who was operating in Yugoslavia during the war, even spoke of a “fraud” in this regard.
For further details, please refer to the following articles and documentaries:

Israeli Holocaust historian Dr. Gideon Greif is leading a commission that is studying the events of Bosnia in greater detail

Naser Oric's "Greatest Hits" - He grinned while showing a video of 114 dead Serbs to Toronto Star reporter Bill Schiller (7/16/1995).
Excerpt in 
https://books.google.com/books?id=h-FWCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA283&lpg=PA283&dq=Bill+Schiller+Naser+Oric&source=bl&ots=GKAeo2Cf7Q&sig=ACfU3U2eVdZiKT7qRDlhBhKOk6azOF041w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdurrPxcDqAhXumHIEHa4LDLAQ6AEwA3oECAgQAQ
Complete Toronto Star article by Bill Schiller at the Emperors Clothes - Jared Israel's website

Ibran Mustafic's disclosures in "Planned Chaos (Planinari Haos)" 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibran_Mustafić

https://mightynose.wordpress.com/2017/07/16/sensational-confession-of-ibran-mustafic-bosnian-muslim-war-veteran-and-politician-we-were-killing-our-own-people-in-srebrenica/

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Background Information 


(1) Osama Bin Laden became a Bosnian Muslim (Bosniak) citizen in 1994. This allowed him to travel easier in preparation for the September 11th attacks.
He also operated in Muslim controlled areas of Kosovo and Albania in 1998-1999.

(2) Some of the 9/11 Hijackers had fought for the Bosniak side during the civil wars in the former Yugoslavia in the early 1990s.  It was unfortunately the same side that the Clinton Administration supported in the 1990s. 
 THE PROPHET'S FIFTH COLUMN
Islamists Gain Ground in Sarajevo
Spiegel Online    02/25/2009   By Walter Mayr in Sarajevo
Radical Muslim imams and nationalist politicians from all camps are threatening Sarajevo's multicultural legacy. With the help of Arab benefactors, the deeply devout are acquiring new recruits. In the "Jerusalem of the Balkans," Islamists are on the rise.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,609660,00.html



(3) Clinton opens a monument dedicated to Al Qaeda fighters and bows to it!



"Therefore, Serbia, Republika Srpska and the Serbian people as a whole are not obliged to apologize collectively for everything that happened in Srebrenica, not just in July 1995, but during the entire time of the civil war in Bosnia-Herzegovina, between 1992-1995.
If any apologies and admissions of guilt are due, they are due from a) U.S. officials who continually sabotaged efforts to reach a peaceful solution in Bosnia-Herzegovina, from the failed Lisbon Plan in March 1992, by which the Bosnian Serbs were even willing to accept an independent Bosnia-Herzegovina and separation from ex-Yugoslavia, to the Owen-Stoltenberg Plan of 1993, 
b) the Bosnian Muslim leadership headed by former president Alija Izetbegovic, which refused the above peace initiatives, actively imported thousands of mujahedeen fighters into Bosnia-Herzegovina during the war, and took deliberate actions that sabotaged peace efforts in order to provoke U.S. led intervention in Bosnia-Herzegovina and the Balkans, and c) all those   who are obstructing efforts to arrive at the real, unadulterated truth regarding Srebrenica, as the only way forward to achieving genuine justice, punishing the truly guilty and opening the way to sincere and lasting reconciliation in the Balkans."


(5) Naser Oric attack on Christmas Eve 1993 starting on Pages 31965. 

(6) Srebrenica Revisited by Diane Johnstone

(7) More than a crime - suffering of Serbs around Srebrenica by Alexander Dorin. Mr. Dorin is a Swiss Serb who has written and posted extensively on the topic. Related videos are on his YouTube channel.



The Srebrenica massacre was a tragic event. But for the last twenty years, it’s been used to justify more war and US intervention.



(9) War of Words: Washington Tackles the Yugoslav Conflict


(10) Pro-Yugoslav Muslim Leader Put on Trial by R. Arsenic


(11) "Miloševićevi ljudi" (in Serbian). NIN. 13 January 2000.


(12) BOSNIAN PRESIDENT - AYATOLLAH KHOMEYNI'S RIGHT HAND MAN


(13) The Real Izbegovic by Nebojsa Malic


(14) Srebrenica : The Sacred Lie by Nebojsa Malic.


(15) Unholy Terror by John Schindler. Der Spiegel reporter Renate Flottau witnessed Izetbegovic granted Osama Bin Laden Bosnian Muslim citizenship. 


(16) BosnianOfficial Links With Terrorism, Including 9/11, Become Increasingly Apparent asClinton, Clark Attempt to Justify Support of Bosnian Militants by Gregory R. Copley


(17) Jihad in the Balkans: The Next Generation by Gordon N. Bardos


(18) The Real Srebrenica Genocide by Nathan Pearlstein


(19) A Reporter's Account of an Evening Spent with Nasir Oric, the Muslim Commander in Srebrenica


Original title, 'Fearsome Muslim warlord eludes Bosnian Serb forces' Toronto Star, July 16, 1995 By Bill Schiller
Complete article at Emperors Clothes
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/oric.htm

(20) New Evidence Against Srebrenica Warlord


(21) Yugoslavia: The Avoidable War (1999)


(22) Typed list of some of the Serb victims in Srebrenica and the surrounding area.


(23) The Srebrenica Massacre was a Gigantic Political Fraud by Edward S. Herman and John Robles


(23) http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-srebrenica-massacre-was-a-gigantic-political-fraud/5321388


(24) Студенти за истину - правда за све жртве Сребренице


(25) Dutchbat III

(26) Impact of US Autistic Foreign Policies in the Balkans: Part II Bosnia

Impact of US Autistic Foreign Policies in the Balkans: Part II Bosnia

By Vojin Joksimovich
Modern Tokyo Times
July 11, 2015

(27) Srebrenica Forensics: 1919-1923 Victims in Total


(28) Srebrenica "massacre".


(29) Srebrenica: a ‘safe’ area 

Appendix II 

(30) SREBRENICA 1995-2015: Just the Facts, Without Propaganda or Embellishment


(31) CIA exposed by former agent – Robert Baer eBritic interview by Aleks Simic on October 10, 2012


(32) http://4international.me/2008/02/15/the-real-srebrenica-genocide-the-mass-murder-of-serbs-in-srebrenica-and-gorazde/

(33) The Srebrenica Precedent by David N. Gibbs.

(34) UN Srebrenica Resolution Shows Double Standards Justifying Russian Stand


(35) The Real Srebrenica Genocide by Nathan Pearlstein



(36) 3,267 Christian Serbs were killed at Srebrenica from 1992-1995 primarily by Bosnian Muslim leader Naser Oric and/or forces loyal to him. 


(37) The Graz Agreement.


A Dutch report detailed President Alija Izetbegovic telling the Srebrenica delegation of a proposal by US President Bill Clinton. If 5,000 Muslims were killed in Srebrenica by the Serbs, a NATO military intervention would follow. The key excerpt starts at 2:56 and goes until 4:05. (Emphasis added.) 




[Chief of Police Mehovic:] “Alija told us about Clinton’s proposal. Chetniks [Serbs] would occupy Srebrenica and kill off 5,000 Muslims. A military intervention would follow. What did we think of that? We rejected this proposal. We thought it was outrageous to murder 5,000 people.”
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The idea of an American president proposing that Serbian troops attack Srebrenica and carry out a massacre to justify a military intervention seemed utterly ludicrous. But the UN investigation shows Hakija’s words are not unfounded. UN report: “Some surviving members of the Srebrenica delegation have stated that President Izetbegovic also told them that he had learned that a NATO intervention in Bosnia and Herzegovina was possible, but could only occur if the Serbs were to break into Srebrenica, killing at least 5,000 of its people.”
The above text and video was posted by Ms. Julia Gorin